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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jan 18, 2013 10:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: It Worked! (Converting Torrented Flac Files to MP3 for iPod)

OK, sooooo ... over a week after I started trying to torrent some music, I finally not only have it, but have it loaded on my iPod, thanks to the incredibly helpful folks here!!! You guys are amazing.

Here's what I did, in case anyone googles sometimes and wants a total layperson explanation of one way that worked. (Or in case I forget and try to search for it myself. Which is highly likely.)

OK. Here goes.

Having been torrented, the stuff ends up in some kind of DL file in the bowels of your computer. You can play it then, but not on iTunes and not on your iPod. You do not wish to walk around with your laptop on your back.

So you get Trader's Little Helper, which puts a little red toolbox icon on your desktop. Your desktop looks so cool now! Sadly, it does not include a helpful genii, so you have to do yet more stuff. It's only the beginning! (Cue Chicago's "Only the Beginning" ... or the Feelin Groovy jam, since we've agreed it's likely to actually be that riff.)

Now you go to the downloaded files, wherever they may be. (Mine were all over the place, particularly after I messed around and screwed it all up trying to figure it out. I finally found them all and put them all in one folder where they were penned in and couldn't escape.)

The torrented show will have a name like gd69-02-28.xxxblahblah

Right click on it. That brings up a menu that includes Trader's Little Helper.

Click on that. It brings up a grey box with a bunch of incomprehensible techie-sounding options. Check the one that says DECODE AUDIO FILES.

It will go to a window with two little boxes, one of which is suddenly getting filled up with gobbledygook. There will also be a little checkbox below the gobbledygook for something about MP3 files. Check that. Also hit DECODE.

The little box below will get filled up with more gobbledygook. Oh good! Tech codes! You notice the coding now says "wav" at the end instead of "flac." This looks promising. Various things happen that I forget and involve the files being checked for accuracy or something, but which don't involve any more clicking on the human's part, so it's all good. Both boxes (up and down) are now filled up with gobbledygook and look official.

But what next? You sit there staring at it, cuz there's no option to close or finish or whatever. It just sits there silently, like the monolith in 2001. OK, apparently it's just the silent type. Minimize it or something. It's happy. Just let it sit.

So you go off and make a nice little desktop folder called WT TOLD ME TO PUT WAV FILES HERE or something like that. I labeled it with the show date, too. So you could call it something like 2-28 WT TOLD ME TO PUT WAV FILES HERE.

Go on back to that original folder, the one called gd69-02-28.xxxblahblah, and look at it. Hey! It's changed! The silent monolith did something! It still has those little cones (the original flac files, I guess) but there are also little musical note thingies (the wav/MP3 files.) If they're lined up boy-girl-boy-girl like mine, you get to manually drag and drop each little musical note file (the wav/MP3 files) into the folder you just made for the 2-28 WAV FILES.

This is actually kind of fun. Mainly cuz it's hard to screw up and feels like you're accomplishing something. Drag, drop, drag, drop, ladeeda, ladeeda, try to explain to your spouse what you're doing all this time, etc.

Now go to iTunes. Add the music by finding that folder that says 2-28 WAV FILES. Add it to your library.

It will be hiding, because iTunes doesn't know its name. Mine was one called "Unknown Album, Unknown Band." (Initially my unknowns got all smooshed together somehow. And then vanished. But eventually they started to behave and went back to merely being Unknown Album, Unknown Band.)

By this point, it's easy. Just change name of "Unknown Album, Unknown Band" to something reasonable like "1969-02-28 - Fillmore West, Grateful Dead," and then it lines up nicely where it belongs.

I did this step individually for each show. Any other way (like using the ADD function on TLH) was confusing or got stuff all messed up. But this worked.

Once it's all on iTunes, you can load onto iPod. Tracks still won't be named, but they do line up the right way.

Oh YAY! You get to feel like a genius. Of course, you may not have any hair left after days of pulling it out. And your spouse/kid/s will think you're nuts. Not without reason. But now you have an important 21st century skill set, right?

For anyone looking for info and other more advanced info later from folks who really know what they're doing, threads are here. Lots of useful info and tips amid my babbling:

http://archive.org/post/552628/total-dead-end-tlh-related

http://archive.org/post/552513/converting-torrent-files-to-itunes








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Poster: Jacky Hughes Date: Jan 19, 2013 1:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Trouble ahead, trouble behind ...

You do realise that you are now on the slippery slope to the classic Grateful Dead Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.

Oh, it all starts innocently enough by torrenting a couple of shows and converting them so that they will play on the MP3 player / iPod .

Next thing you know, the 'must have' list of shows starts expanding.
Then it all has to be lossless, MP3 transfer just won't do.

You start buying more disk storage to hold all the FLAC and Shn files that are now taking over the computer.

You get accounts on more and more torrent tracker sites. Then you start to download shows just to see what they are like.

All selectivity and discernment go out of the window. You then begin to download 24 bit FLAC transfers of shows you already have just in case the quality is better.

You order more disk storage and start investigating the possibility of Peta-Byte hard drives. Etcetera, etcetera.

You really need to start to worry when you actually understand what port forwarding is and you begin making animated cartoons about needing more shows (joke Cliff, joke).

;0)

This post was modified by Jacky Hughes on 2013-01-19 21:51:21

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 19, 2013 2:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Trouble ahead, trouble behind ...

Ha--and, in the spirit of you learn something everyday:

"Peta-Byte"

I had no idea...

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Poster: craven714 Date: Jan 19, 2013 2:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Trouble ahead, trouble behind ...

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7217017/i-need-more-shows

Get more storage AR if you want to continue.
Good luck to you...
Espcially if you start doing DVDs. I told you
Monte was the man for this stuff. nice to see everyone else
chip in too! And thanks to WT for not mentioning CREAM in
one post
;P

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Poster: cosmicharIie Date: Jan 19, 2013 3:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Trouble ahead, trouble behind ...

that's because Tell is very secure in his love for the greatest band ever and the Cream of the crop

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Poster: Tidewater four ten O nine Date: Jan 19, 2013 2:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It Worked! (Converting Torrented Flac Files to MP3 for iPod)

End of term report:

Well done - straight A's with extra points for persistence.

Next term we'll be looking at converting video files and then burning them to DVD so, over the coming break, I'd recommend a little background reading instead of the usual PARTY, PARTY, PARTY.

Would also suggest for get rid of the iPod and replace it with the MOTHER of all stereo systems.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jan 19, 2013 3:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It Worked! (Converting Torrented Flac Files to MP3 for iPod)

Actually, my iPod is my stereo system. I have Bose speakers that I plug it into. I'm afraid that's about as fancy as I get :-)

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffMonte B Cowboy Date: Jan 19, 2013 10:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It Worked! (Converting Torrented Flac Files to MP3 for iPod)

Here's a page out of my Taper's Handbook. I manage and sync my music on multiple iPods and iPhones:
Managing a Music Library on a PC and loading music on an iPod

Torrenting, sharing, and d/l the SBDs takes the most amount of time and effort. If you d/l AUDs for your iPod, and you want MP3 files: fastest, cheapest, easiest, best way to go for you is to d/l the VBR ZIP file for the show you want. Unzip the files on your computer. The track names will already be tagged and named by The Archive for you. These files are mp3. Put these files into your iTunes library.

If you d/l lossless (Flac or Shn or Wav) AUDs for a high fidelity stereo system:
July 25, 2012: Internet Archive adds Bit Torrents for downloadable shows! Screen-capture image of The Archive's tracker info displays my best tape

archive_torrent.jpg

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 19, 2013 1:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It Worked! (Converting Torrented Flac Files to MP3 for iPod)

Oh, yeah, sure--yea, great Monte...Just swoop in here and dazzle the damsel in distress with your imbedded windows and all the rest...crap.

Chuck and I will just take our Stone Age "PC for Morons" iterative approach and melt away in embarrassment...


[;)]

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jan 19, 2013 7:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It Worked! (Converting Torrented Flac Files to MP3 for iPod)

Good work!

Once the mp3s are in your itunes library, you can go under get info in itunes File menu and add the track names is you so desire.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 19, 2013 7:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It Worked! (Converting Torrented Flac Files to MP3 for iPod)

Ah--this post does have the appropriate level of "ah-ha!" satisfaction and downright happiness coming thru...

Good job.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Jan 18, 2013 10:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It Worked! (Converting Torrented Flac Files to MP3 for iPod)

Welcome to the club AR.In case you are not familiar with where and how to get the torrents of GD music (and some others) you might like here is a quick lowdown.bt.etree.org is the site where you can find almost any GD file you are looking for.

http://bt.etree.org

On the home page just click on all bands scroll down to GD and click and GD will appear in box.Next step is to enter shn # (will explain shn # below) into search box and click search and desired file should appear.When file appears click on the file somewhere in the box marked show where the date appears,it will highlight in green and bring you to the torrent file.
When the torrent file page appears the fourth column down is marked torrent,if you click in the box with the date and shn information where it says click to download your download should begin.

The shn # is the most efficient way(thanks again Arbuthnot) I have found to navigate bt.etree for GD music.The shn # is a # appearing in the url box at the top of the page,it follows the date of the show,type of recording(sbd or aud),name of the person who did the transfer,then the shn#.
For example this show the shn # is 1580.

http://archive.org/details/gd1973-02-15.sbd.hall.1580.shnf

So how it works is you get on the archive seek out the particular recording of the show you want,note the shn # then go bt.etree and follow the steps listed above.Have fun building your collection.

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Poster: cosmicharIie Date: Jan 19, 2013 3:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It Worked! (Converting Torrented Flac Files to MP3 for iPod)

the 3 big torrent sites I use to find SB's or MTX's are >>

https://bt.etree.org -
https://shnflac.net - Free Registration, it's worth it
https://www.dimeadozen.org - ditto

You may want to avoid thepiratebay.org
They have many Dicks & Dave's picks, Europe 72 The Complete Recordings, Fillmore West 1969 The Complete Recordings, The Road Trips & Download Series and many bonus disc's - all in flac.
A grate many there are illegal torrents

This post was modified by cosmicharIie on 2013-01-19 11:27:35

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Poster: Tidewater four ten O nine Date: Jan 19, 2013 3:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It Worked! (Converting Torrented Flac Files to MP3 for iPod)

then again, if Dead.Net/Rhino had released Fillmore '69 and Europe '72 in sufficient quantities, people (who weren't lucky enough to get official examples) wouldn't be faced with that dilemma.

At the end of the day, what's the difference in getting a copy of 1st March 1969 from bt.tree/Lossless Legs or getting it from Pirate Bay ?

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Poster: cosmicharIie Date: Jan 19, 2013 4:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It Worked! (Converting Torrented Flac Files to MP3 for iPod)

...as long as I don't sell them or use them for profit, none. I'm faithful in that way.

I go here a lot with my debit card >> www.livedownloads.com
but what they don't have...arrrrgh ye matey!

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jan 19, 2013 7:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It Worked! (Converting Torrented Flac Files to MP3 for iPod)

How can you say they didn't release E72 in sufficient quantities? They sold out the box, then released a music only version and then released the shows individually and those are still available!

I am not against sharing commercially released music. I just have issues with doing it en masse like pirate bay. I do feel like that is not really in the spirit of sharing music in a way that is fair to the musicians, especially these musicians who have share sooooo much with their fans. I have sent copies of plenty of commercial releases, which i purchased, to people i am friends with, so they can enjoy them personally. I think that is quite different than sharing indiscriminately with the world. So i guess for me, i will stick with my bt.tree/LL copy of 3-1-69. It doesn't suck. If one day someone gifts me a copy of the commercial release, then i will enjoy that too, but i have no intention of acquiring it illegally.

I do appreciate that dead.net/GDP has not made it easy for people who aren't in the US to purchase these items since they insist on CD releases so I do understand that your situation is very different than mine.

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Poster: Tidewater four ten O nine Date: Jan 19, 2013 4:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It Worked! (Converting Torrented Flac Files to MP3 for iPod)

Hi Elb,

I was really talking about the "Fillmore '69" box set but, re: E72, I'd throw this in:

You have 3 choices:

1) You're one of the lucky ones and get the boxed set: all the CDs in digipacks, the trunk with your 'deadication' on it, plus the two books - the b & w 'Book of the Dead' and the colour 'Ice-Cream Kid' book of photos.

2) You didn't make the cut and so you can pay the same price as the box set but only get the CDs (in digipacks) i.e. no trunk and no books.

3) You can download the music (lossless) and the artwork for free from Pirate Bay ............ for free.

If I was unsuccessful in getting the 'Full Monty' (box set, trunk and books) I'd probably go for the free (Pirate Bay) option, rather than pay the full price for only part of the package. But that's just my choice - you have yours and I have mine. I respect yours and I hope you respect mine i.e. no issues.

Incidentally (#1) not you, but some have suggested that Pirate Bay sell the stuff - they don't, it's free. They make their money from all the (annoying) advertising on their site - you know: links to Social Networking and Dating sites (oh to be young, free and single again !).

Incidentally (#2) I thought CDs lasted forever, but no. I took the Eagles debut CD (inc. "Take It Easy") out of the rack the other day. I noticed some dark spots on it so held it up to the light - the aluminium (English spelling!) had started to deteriorate and, although the plastic was intact, the aluminium layer had more holes in it than a colander. No surprises but I replaced it with a lossless copy from Pirate Bay - already had the case so didn't have to print a new one !

Keep on Truckin'

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